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R64

 
The R60 series bikes (aka "Sabers") were introduced in 2000, and were all dual 26" wheel high racers. The R65 had better components than the R64, while the R68 was the top of the line titanium frame. The rear brake is mounted to the top back of the main frame tube.

This beautiful R64 has these specs:   27 Speed   Gearing front triple 52,43,30   12-25 rear   ARC Profile carbon fork   Shimano Deore LX shifter/brake   Shimano 105 derailleurs   Truvativ Elita crank   Velocity Spartacus 650 wheels/michelins   Mirrcycle mirrors   Click images to enlarge.


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2004 Vision R64 Saber

MSRP (new) Unspecified
Weight 27
Sizes Unspecified
Colors Crystal Orange, Mercury Silver

Frame & Fork
Frame Construction TIG-welded
Frame Tubing Material Chromoly
Fork Brand & Model Vision
Fork Material Chromoly, unicrown crown
Rear Shock Not applicable

Wheels
Hubs Shimano 105
Rims Alex AL-DA22
Tires 650 x 23c Kenda Koncept
Spoke Brand Stainless steel, straight gauge
Spoke Nipples Brass nipples

Components
Component Group Recumbent Mix
Brakeset Shimano 105 Dual Pivot brakes, Shimano Deore LX levers
Shift Levers Shimano Deore LX RapidFire
Front Derailleur Shimano FD-443
Rear Derailleur Shimano 105 GS
Crankset TruVativ Elita, 30/42/52 teeth
Pedals Not included
Bottom Bracket TruVativ ISIS cartridge
BB Shell Width Unspecified
Rear Cogs 9-speed, 12 - 25 teeth
Chain SRAM PC-59, 1/2 x 3/32"
Seatpost Not applicable
Saddle Vision
Handlebar Vision
Handlebar Extensions Not applicable
Handlebar Stem Aluminum threadless
Headset 1 1/8" threaded Cane Creek

 

Jonathan Garcia reviews the R64 Saber - April 30, 2020.

If there is a list of Ugly Ducklings in the cycling world, the Vision R64 Saber is on the top 5. Even other recumbent riders openly mock me when I ride my Saber!

Apparently, they don't know what I know. As soon as you perch yourself aboard-believe me it is a perch at my 5' 7" height-I am right on my tip toe at stops. But it doesn't feel unstable when you stop, the bike is perfectly poised and balanced in every respect. And at any speed.. at least to the 45 mph downhill that I have achieved on this bike.

Those of you that don't know the Saber led the charge in American High Racers, the first to market (if I remember correctly) and the other designers took note, of course. Designers from Bacchetta and RANS took a different approach...RANS with the coveted Force 5 triangulated frame with medium length boom and slightly longer wheelbase, Bacchetta with the Ti Aero and shorter boom and longer wheelbase than either.

What looks so comical to some is the fact that the wheelbase is so short (40 and 1/4") and the seat is so high! Combine it with the ultra long boom and things don't make sense to a bike designer or to the guy on the street. All that is forgotten when you take that first pedal. The bike is light by recumbent standards. Mine is a 650c wheel version and without bags it is about 27lbs. I have weighed lighter versions than mine at the bike shop.

Let's return to that first pedal. There is no hint of wobbly start or power getting eaten up by a flexy frame. It is sure off the line and it has that hint of surge forward effect like a good steel upright road or mountain bike has. While in the same moment you feel like it is completely intuitive at turning and steering and you would be right. Very agile and surefooted despite it's short wheelbase. I would say because of it..because the boom is so long the front wheel never looses traction and because the rear wheel is relatively close it feels totally connected and balanced. The rider is balanced between the two wheels. Many high racers end up feeling tail heavy/front light especially at laid back angles and/or you load up the seat bags with too much stuff.

Another important factor is how well the seat is designed. It's an all day kind of seat and it still allows plenty of power transfer. If we are covering power transfer, Sabers have a relatively even seat height to crank height ratio with a 3 3/8" rise. This allows a lot of power to be put into the cranks, as proven by todays numbers. So today I was able average 16.5 mph (16.7 according to Garmin)on my loop with it's 1,066 elevation gain in 15.4 miles and 25 lights/stops is some serious speed in the city. Which just adds to the paradox of what this bike is because I never 'felt' like I was going fast, nor did I turn in any notable Strava segments or PR's..it just has a faster average. Again, the motor is what counts people-but the right bike can make it a very pleasant experience.

So it's a study in paradoxes, the classic example of don't judge a book by its cover, the Ugly Duckling truly is a Swan - but only once you immerse yourself in the moment and forget about what the outside world my think of your choices.

This is not an advertisement or encouragement to go buy one of these bikes (nor to drive the price of used one's up!)..these belong in the classic car weekend driver category and consequently should be owned and cared for by those that are willing to live with skinny tires, obsolete wheels, difficult sourcing of proprietary parts etc, etc.

I still encourage people to buy a modern recumbent which is made to take advantage of the latest and greatest from the whole cycling world. Disc brakes, 700c wheels, and modern shifting systems, just to name a few. For most riders new bikes are the way to go. As I always say, if you already have one..I am here to help-I know all the little idiosyncrasies that make these bike tick . This is simply a celebration of one of those iconic bikes that achieves results in an unorthodox way.

Nuts and Bolts: Bike: Vision R64 Saber 2002? ANDY. I didn't name it, I prefer dramatic names. Maybe it's an acronym. ANDY is what someone put on the fork with vinyl decals. It was in sad, sad shape when I bought it from a kid in New York. Notable equipment: Vuelta wheels that Bacchetta and John S. sell. Relatively inexpensive, but these are great wheels. Please note that the handlebars are not stock. Because of my height the stock bars were in my face and made it look even more silly. I wanted to prove a drop bar could be put on something other than a Cruzbike. Mission accomplished. Elbows are in and there are two good hand positions. Not for anyone that is not slight of build..I will tell you that. There is no room between the bars and my body. But this bike needs almost zero handlebar input so it works out perfectly. Notable Performance: See above. Just a blazing fast average with no explanation and no top 3 Strava segments. Which never happens. Usually when a person gets a fast average then a couple more PR's follow.

 

ANDY
Purchased new in 2002 by Bent Rider Online Boston user arodau, this bike was listed for sale 04-23-2017. **Vision Sabre Hi-racer - $900 OBO** Vision Sabre R 64 high racer for sale Very good condition - only has a few thousand miles on it Dual 650c wheels 9 speed Shimano XT rear derailleur Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters Terracycle Glide-Flex Terracycle over/under chain idler Shimano 105 crankset, brakes & hubs Shimano SPD mountain pedals Cateye wired computer Vision Mesh seat (including a replacement seat cover in original packaging) $900 OBO

Eventually, Andy found his way to Jonathan Garcia of Rose City Recumbent Cycles in Portland. Jonathan comments (April 3, 2019): "I own (name on the fork) Andy now. It needed a lot of work, but now it is a sweet ride! It was in sad shape when I got it...now it has new hand laced wheels, new seat cover, new drive train etc...I will tell you that this bike really opened my eyes to the fact that these are real performance recumbents. My testing with speed/heart/rate/power/efficiency is within 2% of my highracers and prototype S40 Cruzbike. The Sabre was a game changer at the time and I know that it had an influence over all the other High Racers that followed it. I regularly ride my 24" version as well. It's not as fast or smooth as this 650c, but it makes the best commuter on our busy Portland streets."

 

2003 Vision VR64 Saber, dual 650C Wheels (Wicker Park, Chicago). Crystal Orange, Shimano 105 brakes.
http://www.recumbentriders.org/forums/threads/11647/

 

NOVEMBER 2011 BARRINGTON HILLS RIDE... BARB PAUSES AT A STOP SIGN DURING THE RIDE. SHE'S RIDING A VISION R64 "SABER" HIGHRACER WITH DUAL 650C WHEELS.
http://www.recumbents.com/wisil/misc/nov2011ride/default.htm

 

Dale Wickum's 2003 silver R64 with 650c wheels. Dale comments (April 2019): The 2003 R64 seats don't recline as much as the R40 seats. I have both bikes, so the discrepancy was very apparent. Funny, because I had a 2000 R65, and that seat reclined just as much as the R40. In order to make the seat recline more, I took an inch out of the seat stays. The stays were cut and re-welded to the cross-brace tube at the top where it joins the seat.
Dale's 2002 in purple:

 

Photos from an expired for sale listing.

 

From the ebay ad (April 30, 2020): US $675.00 Item location: Henderson, Minnesota, United States. Preowned Vision Recumbent bicycle R64 saber in vivid orange color. This is a first generation R64 with 24" wheels. New 24" tires, aftermarket chain holder. Rides awesome! No accessories other then what's pictured. Jonathan Garcia comments: "...it will need shifters, they are always gummed up. Seat looks good. This is the 24" wheel which has even fewer tire/rim choices for replacement. Stock has 32 hole, replacements will be 36 so require different hubs. Zero dish rear wheel on this model. Requires handbuilt rear wheel when it needs replacement."

 

From the craig's list ad (July 30, 2020): US $975.00 Vision recumbent with twin 700 size wheels. The recumbent is as new with a few options. A lazy boy on wheels. New was $2000.00 plus tax plus options a bargain at $975. Has an adjustable boom fits any size adult legs.